Ozi, it’s not your voice that isn’t matching up to my ear. This started before you cut your part. I’ve listened to the tracks separately since also.
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I can re-record my track but it might take me a while to get things worked out right. How about ozi gives the baritone a try and we drop the bass out completely? I don’t mind giving up the baritone at all. These projects are mainly a way for me to learn, and I’ve already got what I can out of this project. Right now let’s just make it sound as good as we can.
My main thought in shortening the song was that we shouldn’t just add stuff because the space is there, and it seemed like we were searching for ideas.
I see what you mean about the banjo intro, Dave. I thought you were laying the groundwork for your fiddle, and did that volume difference on purpose.
By all means, feel free to pull my vocal track out and replace it or just go without it. I wouldn’t have any time to record new tracks for several days.
When I isolate out our voices, I can hear that it is my track that is off on a few notes, but hearing it and being able to correct it are two different things.
I don’t think we have to change any of the vocals…I was just mentioning that they weren’t blending the way I’m used to hearing. I still think they work fine for this recording the way they are. We haven’t approached a final mix yet and a slightly different mix may sound much better, you never know…
But, I’m hearing what you are hearing, fiddlewood. The vocals are close, but not quite right.
Larry, if it’s not the way you want it, then I say we keep trying. It’s not like we have a deadline to meet. When I get some time later on, I can try to get better sounding recordings as well. I didn’t spend a much time on it the first time and I am sure I can do mine better. We are limited in how good we can get it, but I don’t think there’s any harm in trying to improve it. Maybe we even take a stab at different parts. If anyone else wants to do the high part, please do. It won’t bother me at all.
FWIW, I still think some fiddle would be a natural fit for this song. The dobro is a great fit too.
We got some friendly help form the dark side…Take a listen…
Haha, nothing like a slide guitar.
For some reason his vocals in the mix sound better than ours do!
I think maybe if the vocals we more in time then it would sound a lot better over-all. Seems like in the mixes you guys have been coming up with different harmony parts seem louder at times vs. the lead and this could be the problem…but I am no mixer guy and have no clue, just listening to my ear.
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“his”? “ours”? guess that confused me…
I noticed the signal is pushed up and processing has an exciter involved. It helps to blend things a bit, but also pushes the presence of my voice almost to the edge of too present. Lots of compression it sounds like also.
I think the slide guitar is the only thing added to Larry’s mix, and the rest is just processing.
I messed around with a few different recording set up’s with the dobro and ended up using my SM57. I think it captured the sound of the dobro more faithfully, but the signal-to-noise ratio wasn’t so nice as before.
http://www.kompoz.com/compose-collaborate/home.track.project?trackId=213359&projectId=33855
I thought the tone was a bit better on this last one Larry.
I asked Pheophus if he could upload a sep track of his guitar also for you guys to play around with if you want or to use as fill where needed.
I’m not opposed to others coming in on this form kompoz myself but we haven’t really talked about it much. I featured the track he put up just because it it the most finished for now. Feel free to chime in with your own opinions on this. Would you rather strive for inclusion or exclusion?
I worked out a baritone line today at the cave after Larry’s suggestion, but didn’t have a good mike etc with me. Will try to get it down when there is some quiet around home (and that’s not right now) and put it up for your opinions. Fairly busy over next few days but will grab first opportunity to do so.
Larry, I like the dobro on mix10. You mention the noise, but it’s not anything I can pick up in the mix at my normal listening levels. It doesn’t mean someone else can’t hear it, but I was listening for it and didn’t hear it. What mic position did you end up using? I also thought the performance was really good. The intonation and timing are great. Nice job.
Dave, I’m okay with anyone who’s interested joining us. Just as long as they like our kind of music and don’t want to discuss politics or religion.
Ozi, I uploaded a mix with just the melody and tenor for you to work with. http://www.kompoz.com/compose-collaborate/home.track.project?trackId=213415&projectId=33855
Mike, I tried my condensor mic at the resonator, at the mesh rings, and at the 12th fret, and tried my SM57 at the resonator. I ended up using the SM57 because that is what I had previously used. I did my best to keep the background noise minimized by bringing up the fader at the very last instant. Thanks for the compliment. I believe I got a better performance this time around (I had an extra afternoon to practice).
I’ll be out at the Flood Jam tonight and tomorrow, but I’ve got to check in on the dog periodically, so I’ll try to keep up with what’s going on here, too.
The pups decided to wake me up at 5am so I decided it was a good time to try recording while things were quiet around here.Thanks for taking the trouble Larry, but I worked out how to open both Dave and Mike’s tracks and record against them. I think I got the synching right but there seems to be a bit of a mike pong at beginning of each chorus - hope you can remove it with noise filter somehow.
Singing harmony is a new thing to me, I usually sing melody with guitar and I can’t sing if I’m playing bass (I guess I don’t have that female gene for multi-tasking 
) - anyways have a listen and see what you think.
No probs for me who is in, but I think you have to be careful of thickening the mix up so much that you lose clarity of each part. I play contradance music couple of times a month and there can be up to 12 musos at times. Mostly different instruments, but the sound gets pretty thick - sometimes we have had as few as 4 or 5 and that’s when it really cooks, lots of space for everyone, much cleaner sound and it swings.
Don’t want to offend anyone but to my ear the slide has a different feel to the rest of the mix, more country - even though the dobro has a similar sound it fits a lot better. I too have been waiting for fiddle to live up to his name for the intro, but not a bow in sight yet! Also would dearly love to hear a banjo break from The Great One included.
And while I’m putting in my 2c worth of getting picky and insulting everyone, the mando and banjo at the outro aren’t in synch, but maybe that ok, gives it a downhome rustic feel 
And what’s with these red underlined words with their bloody popups? Has Ben cut some sponsorship deals we don’t know about?
hmm…I don’t have any red underlined words.
the slide guitar and the other sliding resophonic guitar sound about the same to me…
Your right about the ending, That’s why I originally suggested the resophonic guitar cover it and the intro.
You won’t hear a banjo break on this song or a fiddle break but I’ll see if I can cover the ends I guess…just remember…you asked for it…
Have a look at a few of the posts above - it seems that certain keywords such as learning, job, etc automatically register as links so when you put the cursor on them a popup appears 
Have you listened to the barivox yet?
I haven’t, There is another separate track of the guitar getting uploaded yet then Mike or Larry can mix it all when they get time.
I suppose I should try to record a fiddle track yet tonight so everything will be ready for when they decide to mix down.
OZI:
Nope, no underlined stuff here either except for in “blue” and when we link to compose…bet you have a setting or have got yourself an STD (virus) in some form of Adware.
Fiddlewood:
yeah baby pressure got to ya…hehehe, get a capo for that fiddle if F is kicking your butt! Glad to see you finally “man’n up” and adding in fiddle, I mean you said you would from the get-go and we expected as much 
…and we ain’t all re-doing our parts out of “A” for ya either! 