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Favorite Lick or Run?

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Ben has some nice stuff on the new “Bag-o-Licks in D”. I really like those triplet licks.

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I went and gave them a listen… real good stuff (as always). I look forward to adding to my bag.

youtube.com/watch?v=im4GR-eNq2s

I wanted to be sure to get the you tube address right this is a killer piece in my opinion . I have learned it but am still a tad slow that is my name “slow” I hope you all enjoy this because it has many licks you will like , one spot in there at the last stanza is like playing one note on top of the other but not . Go there and enjoy .

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Ben has some nice stuff on the new “Bag-o-Licks in D”. I really like those triplet licks.

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I went and gave them a listen… real good stuff (as always). I look forward to adding to my bag.

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[attachment=0]constant sorrow.mp3[/attachment]

This is after three days of practice on this one you can go to the youtube site and hear what it really sounds like. I am slow as Christmas yet. All are welcome to critic me I can take it I am a grown man but still a child LOL It took three attempts to record as I get nervous when I know I am being recorded even if no one is around.

I like it! Thanks for posting it. Three attempts to record is fewer than 98.7% of things I record. I have been known to record a break for hours at a time and still not be happy with it. Don’t worry about the speed. It comes with time, and this song doesn’t need to be blazing anyway.

I think you do a good job with it. It sounds like you are looking for constructive criticism. For my tastes, the one thing I would try to do is to let the notes ring as long as you can. It smooths out the sound and I generally like to hear as much ringing as I can. But that’s just me… other than that minor suggestion, just keep at it.

A few years ago, I started working on the drop D version of the song Dan Tyminski does. I might have to get back on it. It’s a great song you picked.

Again, nice job, keep it up!

Wow thanks for the flowers , this old man is happy to hear that . I do think you are right but one thing you might take in consideration is I was a little uptight so yes I did actually mute some strings I will work that out though . The way it is played is on the youtube link I had on another post , back up to that and go listen I actually down loaded it so I could learn it . I like the tune and the song itself is a great song. I can generally read the tab and almost able to play it if it is not real complicated.
This tune had a lot of licks I learned from Ben and I still think and know he is the best school marm out there . His sister tabbed out a tune for me some time back that I was really wanting to learn and it turned into a big job to learn because it was 97 bars long, a lot of repetitive picking and you just get wore out playing it .But I do now know the tune and worth every cent I paid her to do it, a real bargain. I will never be a star but I just love to play .

Nice pickin’ on this one welder!

Thanks for the youtube link.

Good stuff, welder!

Mike, I have a tab of the O’Brother soundtrack version of Man Of Constant Sorrow. I believe it’s in DADGAD tuning. The arrangement is by Chris Thomas King (Tommy from the movie) rather than Tyminski, though. If you want it let me know and I’ll email it to you.

Please do. My thinking it was Tyminski was based on seeing a vid of Dan playing it live. I suspect we are talking about the same thing based on the tuning. I think when I was trying to figure it out I went with dropping both E strings to D, so DADGAD would work too.

Edit… I guess there were three versions on the soundtrack. I might have that CD and should go look. I think there was also a slow crosspicked version that was cool. I was thinking that was Mr. Blake, but I might be mistaken.

Edit number 2: I was wrong… there are 4 versions of the song, two listed on the back as Soggy Bottom Boys, one as Norman Blake and one as John Hartford. The version I was working on was the first track attributed to the Soggy Bottom Boys. The liner notes says Arranged by Carter Stanley/Dan Tyminski lead vox and GTR. None of the liner notes attribute the arrangment to Tommy. The Norman Blake one was the nice crosspicked piece. He’s pretty decent :smiley:

Pulling this CD out to check has me playing “Big rock candy mountain” Love the lyrics: “In the big rock candy mountain, all the cops have wooden legs, and the bull dogs all have rubber teeth and the hens lay soft-boiled eggs.” How can you beat that?

Thanks!

I don’t even have the soundtrack, so I guess I should have done some research before I posted. The tab I have is the one I remember from the movie. Seems Chris Thomas King is listed as guitar accompanist, but the magazine I got the tab from indicates the open tuned guitar work is his.

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Love the lyrics

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I like the old-timey lyrics, too. I was playing Stay All Night just this afternoon:

Sitting in the window, singing to my love
Slop bucket fell from the window up above
Mule and the grasshopper eatin ice cream
mule got sick, so they laid him on the green

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mule got sick, so they laid him on the green

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I’ve heard that one also as “laid him on the beam.” Great song! I love old lyrics. I don’t know why, but I spent significant time researching the lyrics for “wildwood flower.” Some of the lyrics didn’t quite seem right, so I had fun tracking the (suspected) originals down. It turns out they did make sense. They just got mis-heard over the years and repeated.

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I’ve heard that one also as “laid him on the beam.”

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I believe either way works. With such whimsical lyrics, changing a few words doesn’t make much difference. Those old songs are kind of like lyrical cartoons anyway.

It appears the post on the constant sorrow led to some discussion and that is a good thing. now has any one every heard “Jimmy Brown” I have played my own way of playing it for many years but I do notice there are some difference between me and Mr. Flatt. The way I play it is a tad simpler then he plays it but both sound very much alike. I was told by my brother-in-law that there was more to it than what I play but when I listened to the song it was almost exactly alike and it is just a lead break played between the singing . It is a bright tune for sure and easy to play right out of the chords . A lot of the old tunes were simple and that is what made it wholesome and sounding good . Most people that listen and do not play, like the basic type of music and can relate to it . A good example of that is Achy breaky heart It went up in the charts over night. I was able to play it almost as soon as I heard it, but people just like the basic beat and sound . Bill Salyer a very good steel player told me about the song and he told me then that it would be a hit and he was right , silly and fun song .

Here is an MP3 of the way I play Jimmy brown . hope it don’t hurt the ears to much

[attachment=0]JImmy brown.mp3[/attachment] .

I didn’t think I was familiar by the name, but it does sound familiar. I love songs like that where you pick the melody out of the chords. That’s a nice tune.

Sounds good, welder. It is a little different from Flatt and Scruggs, but sounds just as good.

I like playing Jimmy Brown when we have less experienced pickers at my local jam. Two chords is easy for strummers to keep up with and the riff can easily be played out of a C chord shape which is convenient should the rhythm section need a little support.

I do believe it’s Earl instead of Lester playing the guitar break for Flatt and Scruggs, though.

I’ve only heard Norman Blake play “Jimmy Brown”. Didn’t even know Flatt an Scruggs did it.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Krey-_0-TA[/video]

Found a little tabledit version (Scruggs style). Not sure how this link will show up. It’s obviously in the “J” section.

flatpickerhangout.com/tab/br … mit=Search

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Sounds good, welder. It is a little different from Flatt and Scruggs, but sounds just as good.

I like playing Jimmy Brown when we have less experienced pickers at my local jam. Two chords is easy for strummers to keep up with and the riff can easily be played out of a C chord shape which is convenient should the rhythm section need a little support.

I do believe it’s Earl instead of Lester playing the guitar break for Flatt and Scruggs, though.

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absolutely was Earl I just thought about him being the banjo picker and acting accordingly . LOL but yes it was Earl and he is a good flatpicker also . Yep it is an easy one to play for sure . I do Redwing about the same way . right out of the chord but oops that is where all the noted are at

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I’ve only heard Norman Blake play “Jimmy Brown”. Didn’t even know Flatt an Scruggs did it.

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Krey-_0-TA[/video]

Found a little tabledit version (Scruggs style). Not sure how this link will show up. It’s obviously in the “J” section.

flatpickerhangout.com/tab/br … mit=Search

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Thanks now I will be up half the night trying to learn it that way , and you all will have to look over me as I was talking about Earl as in the present tense and did not mean to do that. when you get to be older n dirt you will make those types of mistakes also . But really thanks for the link I am going to go after it and try my best to do it just like he did , I like all the notes he uses and it makes a big difference in the way it sounds. but it will take some time to break old habits . I think we have a roll going here and I hope someone else brings up some good sounding tunes.

I like that Norman Blake version. He’s pretty decent :smiley:

I call this my little lick, short but to me it is sweet , I was playing with the mayor of st. Charles Virginia one day and we had a small group listening on the side walk and he said it took him a month to get the lick down he showed me one time and I had it, it is easy and to me sounds very country .

[attachment=0]little lick.mp3[/attachment]

clue it starts out on the second fret third string and ends on the first string third fret.