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[Dragonslayer]

don’t really believe people ever went to the moon

Wait, you believe in the moon???

[oaklymaple]

Wait, you believe in belief??

[oaklymaple]

I don’t mean exactly half. I’m just saying part is lit up and part isn’t. Obviously there’s an in-between area too… we call that dawn and dusk. Watch this:

It’s still not what the light is like at the equinox’s.

[Flatpickin_Libby]

You might have to explain more about the equinoxes. Anyway, goodnight everyone!

[JohnM]

Psalm 139:11
… even the night shall be light about me.

G’night!

[Michael_Mark]

Good night, I mean good time of day when the mini sun disappears over the non existent horizon of the flat earth

[Flatpickin_Libby]

Good night, I mean good time of day when the mini sun disappears over the non existent horizon of the flat earth

That’s more like it.

[JohnM]

mini sun

lol

[Dragonslayer]

Ok the earth is flat obviously because globalism is evil

[Dragonslayer]

Just thinking about it this way. Which picture includes God and which picture writes Him out?

Billions of galaxies, everything flying and spinning, the sun is the central god and we are just floating on a tiny speck.

The earth is fixed and the center of God’s eye, with a literal heaven above and hell beneath. It was specially created for man and man alone, as aliens and outer space do not exist. In other words, it’s His footstool.

Those aren’t mutually exclusive except for the sun being “god”
Also, Heaven and hell are spiritual locations, not physical ones. They exist outside of space and time in this universe.
Also, how do you figure the rich man was able to see Abraham and Lazarus? Is the earth transparent as well as flat? Because they had a full blown conversation while looking at each other.

heliocentrism. I used to be one, and I’ve debated with them, and I understand them. They’re certainly still saved. Just afraid to open their eyes to even bigger truths.

This is a mindset that the devil wants children indoctrinated with, so everyone born into today’s world believes we exist with no purpose and no God. And that we can go beyond this earth and inhabit the universe

Heliocentrism and extraterrestrial colonization are in no way so linked as to treat them as an equal entity. And to suggest that heliocentrisms only logical conclusion is nihilism is a blind leap of faith of proportions unheard of in all circles except those who believe that nonlife created life.

But the heliocentric universe is way more interwoven to Big Bang evolutionism than you might think by not digging deeper into this study. The billions of galaxies theory has no heaven. No hell. No God. No protected, specially created, enclosed, special earth.

Except that the big bang universe model most closely matches what we are able to observe, and that actually the idea of a big bang universe genesis causes far more insurmountable problems to an evolutionary ideology than the meager benefits it seems to hold, while it would confirm a literal reading of Genesis 1
And again, contemplating the vastness of the universe in no way logically leads to the nihilistic conclusion that you have so athletically arrived at with bounds that would incite the deer to envy.

@Dragonslayer why did you start this?

I didn’t realize it would start anything, it was just a passing comment to make people laugh, or scratch their heads, or roll their eyes. I didn’t think anyone actually believed it, although, it kinda makes sense, considering how many of y’all are KJV only cultists.

low tolerance for any sort of conspiracy theory.

Last weeks conspiracy theory is this weeks front page news is next weeks coverup/revisionist history.

And that flying planes never account extra or detracted time for the earth spinning under them as they fly?

Umm, actually I’ve been flying my whole life, and they do. It’s the difference between airspeed and groundspeed. This actually accounts for two different axes, the first is the ground moving beneath you, and the second is the further distance travelled because at altitude your tracking a much larger circle.

the equator

I’m sorry this is a spherical term that you are not allowed to use. An “equator” is the central point between two opposing ends of an object, not a line around a disk at an arbitrary point.
You don’t see me saying “the edge of the earth” so you aren’t allowed to say equator.

[Dragonslayer]

Dang Shaky is still typing???

[Shaky_loves_banjo]

I’m fully convinced. It’s so, so ridiculous that people believe outer space even exists.

Ok I don’t believe that yet, but I do believe that the government has lied to us a lot.

I don’t really believe people ever went to the moon either.

Me either, not at all. Watch JP Spears video on it, it should remove your doubts.

A lot of deception and lies are being paraded as science today. I’m sure we can all agree to that too.

Well COVID was supposedly science based, it removed any confidence in modern science that I ever had.

. If it was fake, well then the government was lying to us!!! WHOA! Big suprise!

Aren’t you shocked?? Me too!!

I believe it rests on pillars and foundations, surrounded by water, and beneath that is hell.

This may ne a very elementary argument that you would laugh at, but why has no one fallen off the edge??

They are also very small and very close, as is the sun.

Really?? what’s your argument about that one? Not that I really don’t believe you, but your the first flat earther I’ve ever talked with, besides my coworker. Who is very easy to back into a corner as soon as we start debating.

It wasn’t only to beat the Russians. It’s a big Antichrist agenda. It’s to deceive the world.

That I believe, the depth of deception that the big folks in this world are up to is absolutely sickening.

Antarctica. Twelve countries signed the Antarctic treaty to militarily block any exploration of the “South Pole.” The ends of the firmament are not to be discovered so we don’t see the truth. Explorers sailing around the South Pole have found it to take many times longer than they expected. Because Antarctica is the circumference of the world and we are forbidden to go there. Planes flying in the south are required to turn off their signals and hide their flight paths so we don’t see the shortcuts they’re taking over the flat earth. There is not one bit of measurable curvature at any single spot on the earth. When you see something disappear over the horizon, zoom up with sharper binoculars and it’s still there. Landmarks and cities that you should not be able to see, based on the 8 inch per mile drop of the earth’s curve, are seen perfectly level for miles and miles to the naked eye.

Thats a lot of stuff I’ve never heard of, very fascinating.

By the way, little end note. All the astronauts of the Challenger are still living. The blowup was planned and nobody was in it.

True, actually true. Just another government scam. Kinda the same idea that goes along with JFK not have been sniped out. Anyone else know that? He wasn’t killed by a sniper, rather government agents controlled by the CIA. Who at that time was under the Leadership of…Wait for it… George W Bush

I’m not talking about the whole internet, that may have come across wrong. But the news websites are controlled by one source. The information we’re fed is only what we’re allowed to be fed.

That is so true, you literally cannot find ANTIVAX videos on Youtube. Why hide it if it’s a lie?

The balloon rose 77,429 feet (23.6 kilometers) above the surface, well above the level needed to view the planet’s curves.

Really?? What proof is there that it went that high? The TV footage of Man landing on the moon was created in a Hollywood studio, and it fooled the world. This world believes anything the government throws out there. It’s literally disgusting and sickening. So many concepts that we just accept and never question but are so wrong.

Elon Musk isn’t very smart. He could have bought a full tank of gas but he bought Twitter instead.

That was plain awesome!! That man is one man who loves free speach, hates Biden and Trudeau, and is anti vax. His whole reason for buying twitter was to have a platform that supported free speech.

By the way @Michael_Mark the arguments in your 2-minute video were easy to dispute; I started writing answers out but then wasn’t sure I wanted to post it all here. Maybe I’ll message you sometime. I don’t know if any of you are really serious about studying this, so no need to drag it on for too long.

I’d love to hear your thoughts if you want to pm them to me.

I’m trying to be more open minded now though haha.

Ya man your doing way better!!

Oh wow. Didn’t know it was so simple. I’ll have to try that

It’s a trick she learned from a podcast about Tony Rice. Jake Workman really discourages it but she loves it since it works.

And that flying planes never account extra or detracted time for the earth spinning under them as they fly?

Very good point.

Ok the earth is flat obviously because globalism is evil

Not exactly that, but since this world is run by globalists this is really a very easy thing for them to convince the world wrong beliefs. They have done it over and over. Here is a very small list.

J.F.K was killed by an assassin from a hotel window
Twin Towers were taken down from a random terrorist attack
Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese
Man went to the Moon
Biden got more votes than Trump
Covid was a super deadly virus killing thousands and overflowing hospitals
Masks and covid vaccines actually work

Dang Shaky is still typing???

Yessir I had 214 messages to go through.

[Michael_Mark]

It’s a trick she learned from a podcast about Tony Rice. Jake Workman really discourages it but she loves it since it works.

Boom!

[Michael_Mark]

Hey Libby’s not here anymore… in other words…

“Now she’s gone and we don’t worry, cause we’re hovering in the dome above the flat earth”

[Shaky_loves_banjo]

Michael, keep in mind I like Jake a lot better than Tony. BOOM!!!

[Michael_Mark]

Shaky, keep in mind that you’re Canadian and I never asked for your opinion, eh? BOOM, eh?

[Shaky_loves_banjo]

You SUCKER!!! isn’t that what you call racist? Whats wrong with Canada anyway? Except that our gun laws suck. But you city boy wouldn’t give a rip about that anyway.

[Dragonslayer]

I am neither Heliocentric nor Geocentric.
While the sun (Helos) is in the energetic and geometric center (roughly) of our solar system, neither are the center of the universe, nor even of our galaxy.
While God did create earth specially and make it peculiar in it’s ability to host life, he did not apparently deem fit to do so by making everything revolve around us, probably because for the earth to have enough mass to support that much orbital material, it would have to way almost infinitely more than a black hole, and we’d all be smushed.

I am either an Acentrist (the universe is such an abstract shape that it has no center) or a Theocentrist, and possibly both at once.

Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese

Wait, I’ve never heard about this conspiracy theory, what’s it about?

[Michael_Mark]

Also, Heaven and hell are spiritual locations, not physical ones. They exist outside of space and time in this universe.
Also, how do you figure the rich man was able to see Abraham and Lazarus? Is the earth transparent as well as flat? Because they had a full blown conversation while looking at each other.

In Luke 16, Abraham actually said that there was “a great gulf fixed” between them. I think there’s actually biblical evidence for Paradise being in the center of the earth, and Hell around it, but Jesus led captivity captive and Paradise is now in the third heaven. Or at least, I think that’s what I believe, I can’t remember the whole thing

[Dragonslayer]

Fight! Fight! Fight!