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Motivation - HELP!

For me it’s a matter of just always having a song I want to learn or I like to play. I had the same experience after camp in July. And prior to that I had heard a lot of fiddle tunes but I didn’t really know a lot of bluegrass songs. At the jams I heard a couple that I liked and wrote them down and learned them. Then in listening I would find another song I liked, then another, etc. Playing songs you like or learning breaks in those songs is a great way to practice and will hopefully give you back some motivation.

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@Fiddle_wood ot it right: stop practicing, start playing. Put the banjo down somewhere you often walk past it and then just play something … I hope your motivation will return for you. i have three small children, i work 100% so i dont have much time to practice, but use small periods of maybe 15 minutes, and then i just play what i want without wanting to do it better. it gets better automatically. and I also like to watch others on yt to see how they get better, that motivates me. a lot of motivation!

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@Fiddle_wood said it all. I recently went through a period of a year where I didn’t learn anything new. During that year, there were even periods of a month where I didn’t touch my banjo at all. When I did pick it up, though, it was just to play and have fun.

There’s no rule that says you have to learn something new every time you play. With musicianship, if you’re not moving forward, you have to play to at least stay in the same place. Otherwise you’re moving backward. I just got in to playing again a few weeks ago, and I’ve spent quite a bit of time relearning things I used to know.

Really wish I had picked it up more often and played what I already knew.

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Hi Archie,

Actually not sure I had read your comment I am just in the play something and keep the fingers moving school than doing nought . Did nought for years when should have just played :slightly_smiling_face:

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Why do you need motivation?

I watched a Tony Trishka video not long ago, and he told a story about an old banjo player who influenced him. The Old Guy had the same routine whenever he picked up the banjo. He would pick just one string and listen to the sound. When the sustain died, he would pick another sting, until he picked all five. He told Tony he did this to remind himself of why he played. It was to hear “that sound.”

There might be a day when you don’t want to hear “that sound.” There might be several days. No big deal. There will be other days when you want to hear "that sound.’ And days when you cannot get enough of it.

That’s why a Lifetime Gold Pick membership is a really good investment!
(No, I do not get a kick back for signing up people. :grin:)

And for what it’s worth, I picked up my banjo last night to practice and spent an hour adjusting the cradle strap, then I was done with my banjo for the night.
I doubt this counts as practice, but somehow it was satisfying!

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Chris! I had a blast playing with you ag Cabin Camp and getting to know you - and I live the pics you took.

So what motivates me? It used to be an escape. Concentrating on the guitar kept the stressors out of my mind for a few minutes. Now it’s fun. I LOVED playing with you guys at Cabin Camp. I have some jam buddies here and we just have fun. I wish you lived closer because you’d fit right in!

A lot of what drives me now is wanting to learn a song because one of the other guys wants to play it. I dong know if that’s a motivator for you but if it is let’s find a way- video swap or a capella app or something

Stephen

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You just hit an important nail on the head. If you can find regular jam buddies, that’s a great motivator not only to play more, but to learn new stuff.

I really need to work harder on finding bluegrass pickers in my area.

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I can arrange to have some sort of negative reinforcement at cabin camp, @ChrisWms :wink:

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So, my question is, how do you keep your skills up? ie., from what I’ve seen, you don’t lose your edge.

Tiger Woods has to play golf pretty much everyday. I recently read that Chris Thiel said he has to practice four hours per day just to stay where he’s at.

When I saw Tommy Emmanuel, he mentioned how much hard work it is to keep his skills up.

Just some random thoughts. :thinking: Pardon my kind of veering off.

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[quote=“BanJoe, post:10, topic:13415”]
That’s why a Lifetime Gold Pick membership is a really good investment!
(No, I do not get a kick back for signing up people. :grin:)
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Have you bought those $40 Picks yet though

The rest though very apt. I stopped playing for years due to my perception that I was not making any improvement. Last night toyed around with the We Three Kings . Attached show that did first four bars and then added. In no small part due to this site. Will not bore you with the rest but there is the potential to put 1/4 bends in a bit later and as @BanJoe mentions that is the sound that I always want to hear somewhere.

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Not veering at all. I now do something every night . The nights I don’t do stick to my drills or cannot stick to my drills I toy with something or Transcribe it.

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Being Ex Military happy to assist with that @BanjoBen :wink:

If its not raining its not training
If its not snowing we are not going
A day out of uniform is a day wasted
Every days a holiday

Those were the days!:wink:

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I believe one of the best motivators is working on tunes you really like. Sometimes though the arrangement can be far more difficult than your skill level then it becomes a challenge. A long term goal.

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I appreciate the kind words, but my skills definitely waiver over time. If I play every day for a few weeks, it becomes so effortless that it’s almost like the banjo is playing itself. The times I’ve put it down for a month, I feel like I’m struggling really hard just to pick the right strings.

I’m really hoping my 4 year old decides he wants to play some day. It’d be nice to spend time with him AND be advancing my skills at the same time.

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@Mark_Rocka

Ah! The teaching someone else conversation has arrived. Which is why Ben is what he is! The reason I write down in Tab what I am doing is due to that reinforcement technique of using every session for what it is worth even if it wasn’t what I planned. Then share it others can read it or ignore it! Note names , fret positions. Oh and yes I know there are Flats as well just never tend to write them down.

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“Hmmmm…let’see…Here’s Earth (where I live)…
… and here’s that place where people who can write their own tabs live.
Notice how advanced their civilization is compare to mine here on Earth?”
:milky_way:

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It’s going to be interesting. I’ve been told many times I’m a natural born teacher, but when it comes to teaching your own kids, that’s different. I’ve heard even Ben got a piano teacher for his girls even though he’s a well trained pianist. There’s something about kids not wanting to do what parents ask. Maybe having a 3rd party teacher makes it feel less like a chore and more like fun? I’m not sure yet. My son is my last hope. Neither of my older girls had any interest in music.

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No its far more interesting than that if you break down what you are learning as if you were to teach it someone else it goes into another area of your brain.
Ben’s build a break lessons were fully understood by me but I did not benefit from them until I started committing them to Tab.

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Its Bens basic version Bars 1 to 4 then I worked on it for a different sound whilst the melody remains the same. Just like his build a break lessons but it was not until I started writing the Tab out that the whole process clicked. Might just be that I am dumb:wink:

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As a beginner, I’ve had those moments! The most recent was when I noodling around and discovered a C chord at two places on the fretboard. All of a sudden I got a powerful glimpse of fretboad geography & it made sense! :open_mouth:

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