Getting started with rhythm tracks


#1

I can’t seem to get going with rhythm tracks. Could someone help me understand how to use them? Every time that I have tried, so far, I finish my part before or after the rhythm track does.


#2

Please give me an example of a particular lesson so I can show you. Thanks!


#3

Whenever I end before or after (usually after) the rhythm track it highlights for me the importance of working on my timing. It’s a sobering, yet important lesson.

The rhythm tracks usually (always?) feature multiple passes through the song. One thing to watch is that some lesson tabs include an ending or outro that wouldn’t be played on each pass. Throwing in four extra measures would definitely send you off into no-man’s land. The Salt Creek Melody guitar lesson is one example that comes to mind.

https://banjobenclark.com/lessons/salt-creek-melody-solo-guitar-intermediate


#4

Hi Ben, It’s actually all of them, but to use the Boil dem Cabbage down forward roll drill as an example:

The piece has 24 measures. For this the rhythm track uses 48 guitar strums or 2 per measure. Almost all of the notes are eighth notes so I need to play 4 notes for every guitar strum. Is that right? . Even with the slowest rhythm track, that seems very fast. I don’t know how to develop the ear to hear how many notes I’m playing per strum. I set the metronome to 110 bpm and look to play 2 notes per beat. Is this the best way to build and hear the speed?

Thanks,

John


#5

Ben will give a more eloquent and technically correct answer, but in the meantime, if it helps…

Don’t focus on the strums. Focus on the beat. Each measure has 4 beats. Ben is playing an alternating bass note / strum pattern on the guitar. What I think you are referring to as strums are happening on beats 2 and 4 of the measure. On beats 1 and 3 he is playing bass notes. If you’re part is to play eighth notes then you want to play 2 eighth notes per beat or 8 eighth notes per measure.

Ben counts off in the beginning of the track. Tap your foot to the 1-2-3-4. Don’t try to play, just keep that count going in your head and foot and follow along on the tab. You should get a feel for the beat. Listen for Ben’s chord changes. That will help let you know if you are ahead or lagging behind. Hopefully you get to the end at the same time Ben does. Once you do, pick up the banjo and play two eighth notes per each of those beats. One when your foot hits the floor and one when it is up in the air. (1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &)

I hope this is halfway coherent.


#6

Hey John! I assume you’re using the TEF files for learning. If you’re not, you really need to. Download the viewer here:

http://www.tabledit.com/download/tefv.exe

After you install it, download the TEF file from whatever lesson page you’re working on.

Let’s use Boil Dem Cabbage Down as our example. Just like Ben’s backing tracks, there’s a guitar part in the TEF file that is played exactly the way Ben plays guitar in the backing track. Each measure gets an alternating 2 guitar bass notes and 2 strums. As you’ve already noticed, there are 8 banjo notes per measure.

It sounds to me like you’re just not ready for the slowest speed backing track that Ben has, and that’s OK. It takes time build up speed and accuracy. So, here’s what I’ll suggest.

1 - load up the TEF Viewer and open Boil Dem Cabbage Down.
2 - Go to the MIDI Menu option and turn on the metronome. Make sure it’s volume is turned up.
3 - Go to the MIDI Menu option and click on “MIDI Options.” You’ll see 2 Vol sliders next to “Banjo open G” and “Guitar Rhythm.” Pull the Vol slider next to “Banjo open G” all the way to the left. That will silence the banjo track so that you only hear guitar.
4 - Go to the MIDI Menu option and click Relative Speed… Adjust the slider down as slow as you need to go to feel comfortable with the speed. I’ve had to go as low as 20% when starting out on some lessons.

Now, once you hit the Play button (or the Space Bar) you’ll pick 2 notes on the banjo for every click of the metronome. If you have trouble hearing the metronome over the guitar, go back to the Metronome window, make sure the volume is all the way up, and if so, change the “Patch” in the drop down menu to something that sounds better (I like cowbell. We could all use more cowbell.)

Once you get comfortable with this method at about 70 to 80% speed, you should be ready to move over to the backing tracks.


#7

See if this helps, @johnbmcglade. You picked one of the older ones and I’ve changed the count-in since making that one:


#8

Hi Ben, that was very generous to make that little video for me. That makes it much more understandable. I have to start using my ears first and the fingering later.

Thanks very much and all the best,

John


#9

Hi Mark, thanks for your very thorough answer. I can see that trying to wing it, without counting is a mistake. I get your point and will spend some time, before I start playing to figure out the timing. I had been using just the .pdf file. Now I’ve tried the .tef a few times and I can, at least, see where I’m going wrong. This is advice that I’m going to follow.

Thanks again,

John


#10

Hi Woodshed,

It makes perfect sense and is something that I know that I need to work on. I wan’t hearing the bass notes before, or at least, wasn’t thing about them.

I get blown away by how generous everyone on Banjo Ben’s is with their time and advice.

Thanks again,

John