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Precious Memories key of D

Thank you @Fiddle_wood!!

Indeed! By # do you mean NNS? & what did you mean by position? Chord shapes? (No worry on the note names, I only know a few…) I was lucky the song was slow, if it was at bluegrass or fiddle tune speed I’d have been very lost trying to transpose capoed guitar chords, & picking the break! As for the blue note, I got that idea from Ben’s various arrangements & suddenly thought “:bulb:” hey… I can put that here :grin:!

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Thank you @Archie!!! :grin:

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Depends on the instrument, but yes, generally, for playing a chord progression I think in numbers and how they correspond with position of the notes of the scale of the key, or sometimes I think in the chord shapes.

for playing breaks I think the same way except it is in the scale of the chord being played at the moment. and I am more shape oriented.

I wouldn’t say I’m really up on all the ins & outs of the NNS, but I have a sort of hillbilly/simplified way of understanding it.

hope this makes sense.

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Thank you @jmonickaraj1!!
I don’t really have of alot of musical knowledge, did band 2 years for flute/piccolo in jr high school. I listen to music a lot. Like, (lol!), I’d rather have music on than the TV, anyday! You sounded great on your guitar version,:+1:t2:!!

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Hopeful to eventually work up to that level of skill!! Nice lofty goal to shoot for :grin:! As for NNS I’m alright on 1 4 5, not so good on 2 3 6!

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2 & 6 can be tricky 'cause you have to figure out if they are major or minor.
Hint: if they come near the end of the progression heading toward the 5 they are probably major (or 7th)

3 will usually be either flatted (modern sounding) or a 7th (old home place)

As you play more it will get easier to recognise this stuff by ear quicker.

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Thanks Simone! Keep it coming then, I can learn/steal ideas from your performances! :wink: Nice harmony!! Good thing in your church you guys sing/play songs that I’m familiar with. I too agree with F_W, the singer has great voice!

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Thanx for that! I’ve got this cheat chart in my phone & was wondering why for some songs we do in G, like ‘don’t worry about me’ (Paul Williams), we go to the A (not on chart), but for others we do the Am (cant think of a particular song at the moment) (which is on the chart).

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Sounds great, you did very well!
For following a capoed guitar it’s best if you play guitar and capo frequently, otherwise it’s easy to get lost (actually it’s easy to get lost anyway). Just be aware that a guitarist can play out of any position with a capo, so it might be best to follow the sounds not the look in some cases

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Well, you did outstanding! I love love love that solo, just absolutely perfect for what the song and situation calls for. I’ve been in your shoes before, had a bit of panic, crashed and burned, and got better. Numbers are helpful here. Rather than think D, G, A, think 1, 4, 5. That way, no matter what the key is, you know the chords. It will be tricky watching him play the chord shapes on the guitar, but you can get used to that and transpose faster and faster in your head. You’re gonna be just fine, y’all sounded great!

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Well I certainly can’t offer any suggestions any of your questions @Simone but I can certainly say I thought it sounded fantastic. It definitely sounded like worship to me!

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Tell me what key you would most prefer playing it in, and I’ll accommodate you. I’ll put down three part vocals, so at least one of the parts is always a stretch for my cords. I’ll stick to minimal instrumental backup, so that anyone else who wants to jump in with their chosen instrument won’t clash with whatever’s already there.

Give me a key, and then give me a day or two, and I’ll shoot an URL your way for streaming mp3. And if you want it all acapella so that you provide ALL the instrumentation, I can do that too.

Thanks! This’ll be fun.
Billy Shaw

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Simone,

I believe I understand now. Perhaps the circle of fifths chart will help some time in the future. For example, you know that a song is 1,4,5, but you don’t know off the top of your head what chords need to be played for a particular key.

Here is an example of how you can use the chart. Let’s say that you want to play in C a 1,4,5 progression

  1. Note the C on the chart.
  2. Look one space to the left of C and you see F. There’s your 4. The 4 (F) is always one space left of the C.
  3. Now look one space to the right of C. There’s your 5. The 5 (G) is always one space right of the C.

Now, let’s say you want to play a 1,4,5 in D.

  1. Note the D on the chart.
  2. Look one space left on the chart, and you see the G, there’s your 4.
  3. Look one space right on the chart, and you see the A, there’s your 5.

So, you can always easily find the 4 and 5 when you know the key using this chart. Hope you find this helpful.

Jack

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I think I might like to participate in that. Please let me know.

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Jack, might want that left & right in your instructions changed to clockwise & counterclockwise…

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Good idea Dave.

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Thank you so much Ben! I’ve definitely crashed & burned… happy to hear : :blush:

And yes, the 1 4 5 are my friends!!

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Thank you @stuart.gamble!!

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Thank you @Dragonslayer !!
Well u know I dont play guitar so that’s out! :rofl:
And, yes I’m learning about those tricky guitar capo deals where they capo then play out of diff position! And to play very softly till I’m sure my chord sounds match up with theirs, so yes kinda following the sounds like you said. (And hopefully it’s a slow song!!!)

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I’m also a guitar player and can do the transposition, I have to tell you that when I’m on mandolin and there is a guitar carrying rhythm, I tend to fall into improvisation mode rather than try to follow the chord changes or look at chord shapes when they have a capo on. With some practice and knowledge of your scales in different positions on the neck, you can develop the ear for some pretty nice melodic fills around the chord changes. And I never have to look at the guitar player :slight_smile:

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