Increasing notes pitch and frequencies in a scale

[vea1960]

This is the chat GPT answer to my question regarding the order of frequencies (pitches):

In standard G tuning (gDGBD) for a 5-string banjo, the frequencies of the open strings are as follows:

1. 5th string (G4) : approximately 392 Hz
2. 4th string (D3) : approximately 146.83 Hz
3. 3rd string (G3) : approximately 196 Hz
4. 2nd string (B3) : approximately 246.94 Hz
5. 1st string (D4) : approximately 293.66 Hz

If B3, D3 and G3 are in the same scale and octave, why does B3 have a higher frequency and therefor ahigher pitch than D3 and G3 which are further to the right on a scale?

Also, can I assume that a note in a lower octave (ie D3) will have a lower pitch & Frequency as the same note in a higher octave (ie D4). Help, I need to understand this.

[Michael_Mark]

Hey Victor! Welcome to the forum!

The octaves start and end on C. So, B3 is actually the highest note in the 3rd octave, and the next note up would be C4 (middle C). It seems confusing because G comes after B in the alphabet, but it makes sense once you redefine the starting point as C:

C3 - D3 - E3 - F3 - G3 - A3 - B3 - C4

Also, can I assume that a note in a lower octave (ie D3) will have a lower pitch & Frequency as the same note in a higher octave (ie D4).

Yep!

You don’t really need to worry about the octave names when playing banjo, but it’s good that you’re diving into music theory. Glad to have you on the forum!

[Archie]

Hi @vea1960 Victor to @BanjoBen 's Forum

I am just a low-lay banjo player the only time I used frequency, wavelength and modulation was as a radio operator in the army but that was many moons ago.

[Mike_R]

If you do want to get a feel for the frequencies behind a note (like for adjusting an eq and such), the handiest thing is that an octave is a doubling of a lower frequency. Combine that with knowing a few note’s frequencies and you can get a pretty good idea of the frequency of any note.

[vea1960]

Thanks Michael
It makes sense now.
Much appreciated.

[vea1960]

Thanks Mike
Had 1 yr of physics in college and it helps me to understand some of it.

[hdmccluskey]

I’ve taught grade school students how to transpose…
In 5 minutes…
Circle Of Fifths

First thing to do is ignore all the letters.
Pretend you are flying over a mobile home park.
The outside circle is the addresses for each mobile home… the inner circle would be a storage shed in the back yard.

You are living in C. You decide to have a barbecue invite the neighbors.
Next morning, you can’t find your frying pan.
Your wife says .
Honey, maybe you left it in the shed.
(Am) no it’s not there. How about the neighbor to the left? (F) neighbor to the right?!!! (G)?!!
Oh I remember… it’s in the pantry ©

The search for your frying pan…
Is C…Am…F…G…C

Play those chords several times… get used to how they sound.

So… You decide to move… to D… Closer to the park… view of the mountains.

You have another barbecue…
Invite the neighbors.
Lose your frying pan. And go on the same search.
You start in D… look in your shed… Bm… then neighbor to the left. G… then right… A… then home. D

D…Bm… G…A…D

This is called transposing.

You can move to any spot around the circle… repeat the frying pan search… and play the exact same tune.

For instance

G…Em…C…D…G

Hope this helps

Let me know if you wish more info.

All the best,

Harv

(The song I was using.. goes... I love the mountains, I love the rolling hills.... )

Same idea applies to any song…

[BanjoBen]

Great job, super creative and sticky teaching!