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Discuss the Banjo lesson: Whiskey Before Breakfast- D Tuning

#26

Check out the link I posted 6 replies above yours. I think that might be what you’re looking for.

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#27

Thanks. I’ll give that a shot.

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#28

I am just learning Whisky Before Breakfast and am at the beginner leaning to intermediate level. I don’t understand the timing on the back up track. I am starting at the slowest level (120) and I always have more track left by the time I get to the end of the song, even if I play the A and B part twice. Are you supposed to play them twice? I have not had this problem with other songs so I don’t know what I am doing wrong.

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#29

Hi @rolandlk Larry so I haven’t worked on this lesson yet but looking quickly at the TAB I see a long intro and a long ending. So I am thinking you need to play the intro the 2 x A parts and 2 x B Parts then repeat the 2 x A parts and 2 x B parts and you have that long ending. Try that and see if it fits Hopefully Ben will get back to you soon with a definitive reply

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#30

The rhythm track runs 3 times through the song, with an intro at the beginning and a tag at the end. :+1:

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#31

Thanks Mark, I think 3 times thru did the trick! Now that I understand how fast I need to play it, I realize I need to work on it a little more until I am ready for even the slowest track. Thanks for the help.

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#32

Love this! Great arrangement and easy to learn!

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#33

So after a quick revisit to Jim Britton’s Pro Picker Case Study to review Jim’s licks since I already learned the solo. I thought I would crack on and learn this lesson today. To achieve my goal of completing the Intermediate Section before the end of January and before @BanjoBen adds more lessons. This is a personal mile marker for me. wonky

I kinda looked at this lesson when Ben first posted it three years ago and had intended to work on it back then but I was working on something else and then I though, You know what I have already learned Alan Munde’s arrangement in the key of D in standard G tuning and I am sure learned a simple version by Geoff Hohwald. I’ll just leave this. Well I wished now that I had come to this sooner. It is a great arrangement in D tuning. The B parts and ending are particularly challenging but are fun to work on. If you have only played in standard G tuning give this lesson a try. I bet like me you’ll love the deep tone…

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#34

Hi. This is a song that comes up often in jams. If I learn this arrangement, how do I go about playing it without retuning frantically while everyone starts playing?

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#35

Great question @ambergkeith Keith. You could fit a set of D Tuners or bring along a second banjo. Returning to D takes a while. But with a set of D tuners you can tune to D and switch easily to standard G by flipping the G and the B strings.

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#36

You do get faster at tuning, but I would normally play this one in a standard tuning if in a jam setting. I need to do a C position version of this, capo 2!

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#37

So, how do I do backup with this if it’s played in a jam? Is there an easy trick to it?

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#38

Hi Keith Personally I would just vamp through the chords D A G. If you get lost fall back on the D chord.

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#39

So, with it tuned like this, open is D. So just barring the 5th fret will give me G, right? 7th will give me A?

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#40

Oh, I see Mark’s reply above too, thanks.

#41

Hi Keith I don’t play a lot of tunes in D tuning. no where near enough to answer your question right off the bat. But the same principles apply when playing out of any tuning. You follow the chord progression. Finding the fingerings in D tuning are not as difficult as you might think. Find the shapes and follow your instincts and you’ll not go far wrong. Good luck

#42

I love playing this at the jams but, how about showing us some back up in D tuning for when the others are playing?? I just keep using the bar chords for 4 and 5 .

Chuck

#43

Hi @helichuck Chuck, See @MissMaggie 's post above she has created some backup TABs to accompany @BanjoBen 's lesson.

Also check out Ben’s NEW Backup Utility Lesson just released. For exploring Backup in D

https://banjobenclark.com/lessons/banjo-backup-utility-rolls-in-d-banjo-intermediate

#44

@Archie, unfortunately, I’m not sure the new utility rolls lesson will be directly applicable since the Whiskey Before Breakfast lesson is in D tuning and the utility rolls lesson, although geared for the key of D, is for standard tuning with the 5th string capo’ed at 7th fret.

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#45

Sure @rspillers Ryan gif my bad. Come to think of it @BanjoBen hasn’t covered many lessons in D tuning.

I tend to search YouTube for lessons in alternate tunings. So maybe this lesson by Jim Pankey might be of some help to @helichuck Chuck. It’s not Whisky Before Breakfast but it is in D Tuning and once you learn the basic chord positions it’s not that more difficult than playing in open G.

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