Forum - Banjo Ben Clark

Discuss the Banjo lesson: Soloing Over the Chords with Kristin Benson

https://banjobenclark.com/lessons/soloing-over-the-chords-with-kristin-benson-banjo-intermediate

Improvising over a melody is tricky, and requires a lot of ear and vocabulary practice. But KSB teaches us how if you know the chords to the song, you can play a break at the drop of a hat! Kristin will teach how to find your chords all across the neck, and how to roll over them to make your break sound epic.

4 Likes

I had a question, I can move up and down the neck with 4 fingers and three fingers with the ring finger in striking distance when needed. My question is about when I am picking two string fretted rolls. I have always moved around keeping 3 fingers down sliding and adjusting finger positions as I slide. Are you saying it is better to relearn picking up another finger and use 2 finger position. Not trying to be difficult just wondering I always try to keep my fingers attached to strings when I move.
Thanks
Mike

Yes, that is Kristin’s mandate. She is adamant about learning to use only the fingers you need. She is also very insistent about making sure the fingers you DO use in a 2 or 3 note position would be the same fingers you’d use if you were fretting the full chord.

4 Likes

Ok thanks what I was wondering

Mark said it beautifully. Yep. Putting down unnecessary fingers can be just as detrimental as an inability to get them all down. Ultimately, we want complete fluidity with our left hand and this helps build that. Thanks for the comment!

3 Likes

YAY! I’m spreading the knowledge I’ve learned properly. :stuck_out_tongue:
Hi Kristin! Great to see you on the forum.

2 Likes

I am not sure of the RH finger pattern in the Foggy Mountain roll.

Hi @chersch Cheryl welcome to @BanjoBen 's Forum

The FMB Roll pattern is Index Middle Thumb Middle Thumb Index Middle Thumb.

Strings 2121 5215 alternate 3131 5315

It’s also acceptable to play Index Middle Index Middle but the thumb really emphasises the note.

This lesson is very similar to Ben’s Waypoint lesson. Am i right?

I think so. It’s just the girl version, since they’re not very good with directions.

I KID KSB…I KID!

3 Likes

Both excellent lessons. Get well soon

Yes, very similar, but Kristin’s magic happens in that bonus material video when she gets in to the diatonic triad pairs.

It took me a long time to train my fingers to play that stuff without thinking really hard about it, but once you got it, it’s an incredible tool to use not just for backup, but for looking like you know what you’re doing playing a break over a song you really don’t know. Most of the notes won’t fall on the song’s melody, but it will still sound good.

2 Likes

Ok. This is probably a stupid question but if the song goes to A or B I can just fret those chords as if it was G,C etc?
Itll take me a couple of viewings of the bonus material to make it click.

If you’re talking about a song in G going to an A or B, then yes, just slide your G chord shape up 2 frets for A or 4 frets for a B.

1 Like

Thanks. I knew it but needed to hear it.

I was going to do that too, I’ve just been busy then I had surgery and then a banjo string broke then I had to give a bonus to the store guys so no bonus was left for me.

6 Likes

I just finished this lesson and it was amazing! I realized my short comings with fingering those chord inversions. Gonna take some work for me to get this down smooth, but well worth the effort. Great stuff!

4 Likes

I have a leg up on step 1………lots of failing & low memory. Otherwise, there will be a lot of work. Thanks KSB!

5 Likes

In step 3 - Application, Kristin said she always likes to end it with that particular lick, what lick is she playing there?

Thanks!

This fits so well into what I have been working on which is the lesson Ben taught on upgrading my vamping from 2 months ago. I have one question though. I am concerned a little about keeping my fingers down and not cutting through causing my fingers to bleed. I assume a bigger callus will develop. It starts to feel tender after about an hour of chord changes so I do something different for awhile. Is this a common thing and am I trying a good approach to not cut my little finger and my ring finger by stopping when they feel tender. I am also thinking I need to try and slide and play with less pressure.

1 Like