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Ricky Skaggs CMA HOF Induction

Yes, it was. At that point I had deserted what they were calling ā€œrockā€ music.

By the way, they had to surrender their grammies, and one of them was so distraught over what happened that he committed suicideā€¦As did Pete Hamm from the group Badfinger over losing their deal with Apple Records.

And to add to that, there was a group back in the early 90ā€™s called CC Music Factory that was disbanded, because it was found out that the woman in the video ā€œEverybody Dance Nowā€ didnā€™t sing it at all.

The actual singer of that song, was considered too unattractive for marketing.

One more thing, Millie Vanillie were not the actual singers of any of their music.

Thereā€™s a big difference in what Milli Vanilli did and what we were doing. The tracks we played to were actually tracks of us playing in a studio. We did it for technical reasons. MV had other folks actually sing for them in the studio, if Iā€™m not mistaken. They were faking the whole thing.

Plus, if you will just listen to Taylorā€™s vocal, you can tell itā€™s actually her singing live :scream_cat:

Today she still sings liveā€¦ just without a soul. :smiling_imp:

I recall attending a ā€˜LIVEā€™ concert in the Usher Hall Edinburgh many many years ago to see Barbara Dickson ( Made famous by Andrew Lloyd Webber musical Evita) I could tell right from the outset that the only thing LIVE was their presence on stage, The band was faking and she was lip-sinking. We had purchased front row seats which cost a small fortune and I felt in a sense we had been robbed. I had been a huge fan of Barbara up to that point.

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So, if I understand all of this correctly, is it possible that Elvis didnā€™t really sing all of the songs in his moviesā€¦ that he was lip synching to his recordings!!!

I donā€™t know if I can ever watch ā€œClambakeā€ again now! Way to go yaā€™all!

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@BanjoBen i agree 100% with you, Ben, I was not trying to compare the video to Millie Vanilli at all. Big difference in doing a ā€œliveā€ awards show and ā€œlip syncingā€ as to faking vocals on an album or whatever for profit. I really donā€™t understand why someone would do that and I would have to guess its pretty difficult to get a ā€œrecord dealā€. If you have the talent and ability to make great music why would you WANT to fake it? I do not have any personal knowledge of how things work on ā€œshowsā€ this is my ā€œMr. Spockā€ interpretation.

@jw11 Iā€™m sure thatā€™s going to be true in any movie where singing is involved. I would have to guess that they may be actually singing while doing that particular scene, but sound stages are ā€œHUGEā€ so I donā€™t think the sound would project very well, big difference in ā€œlip-synchingā€ your own voice as to having ā€œsomebodyā€ elseā€™s voice in place. I wouldnā€™t let it deter you from any of Elvisā€™ movies. :wink:

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This would be like virtually any music video out there, unless there are clips from the studio spliced in, of course.

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If Milli Vanilli were an act today, they could get by without having to have someone sing for them. The tuning software is so advanced now that literally anyone can be made to sound great.

I need to get me some of that.

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Yep, Iā€™ve seen pitch correction used with great effect. That, along with live canned applause SW.

I remember hearing years ago that Claudia Schiffer was approached to become a singer. When she told whoever was asking that she couldnā€™t sing, they responded by saying that was OK. She didnā€™t need to be able to.

If I remember correctly, MV was performing live and the recording quit working. They were toast.

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@BanjoBen I think I have an ok voice. I had a friend tell me one time that "I should sing solo, so I said really? and he said yes, ā€œSolo I canā€™t hear youā€ā€¦ :confused:

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I looked at that software once and still do quite longingly. The one that I would use in Pro Tools only costs about $600.:hushed::scream_cat:

Thanks for the explanation Tye, but I was joking.

Have you all ever wondered in any of the corny Elvis movies that he can be out in the middle of nowhere (usually on a beach) and he starts signing to a beautiful girl and while heā€™s singing a full band comes in, drums, bass and everything. Where are they hiding? Are they in a boat out in the water? As lame as those movies are, they somehow draw you in are fun to watch.

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Signing? Why? Was he mute or the girl deaf? :joy:

Good one Archie. :rofl:

Same hereā€¦Iā€™ve had several request that I sing ā€œFar Far Awayā€.

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Remember Count Basie playing out in the desert when Sheriff Bart arrived? (Blazing Saddles).